AR 768 [2]
I once spoke with the Babylonian tribe in the spiritual world
about the keys given to Peter, asking whether they believe that
the Lord transferred His power over heaven and earth to Peter.
Because this was the chief tenet of their religion, they vehemently insisted that He did, saying that there was no doubt about it, as it was clearly stated.
But on my asking whether they know that in every part of the Word there is a spiritual meaning, which is the meaning of the Word in heaven, they said at first that they were unaware of it. However, later they said that they would inquire into it; and when they did, they were told that there is a spiritual meaning in every part of the Word, which is as different from the literal sense as anything spiritual is from something natural. Moreover, they were also told that no person named in the Word is so named in heaven, but that instead angels understand in it something spiritual.
Finally they were informed that instead of Peter in the Word,
angels understand the truth of the church springing from goodness,
which is likewise meant by the rock that is mentioned there
together with Peter; and that they could know therefore that Peter
was not given any power, but that it belonged to truth springing
from goodness. For all power in heaven is the power of truth
springing from goodness, or of goodness by means of truth. And
because all goodness and all truth come from the Lord, and nothing
from any man, they could know that all power is the Lord's.